Python - Is there any way to get pip without setuptools?

Question

Seems kinda weird that they'd require a package manager to install a package manager. I'm on Windows BTW.

Answer 1

Pip does require setuptools. Pip is really just a wrapper around setuptools to provide a better installer than easy_install and some nicer installation behaviors, plus uninstall, requirements files, etc. Even if you somehow got pip installed without setuptools it still won't run without it.

Answer 2

You can use Distribute instead of setuptools: it installs a package called setuptools (it's a fork of the latter). You can install Distribute by downloading and running distribute_setup.py.

Update: As Gringo Suave says, the above is obsolete now - distribute and setuptools have now merged, and the merged project is called setuptools.

Answer 3

You can download setuptools package as Windows installer from pypi/setuptools and then install pip or easy_install