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Why won't <iframe> elements validate in HTML 4.01?

I was just checking to see if it was valid to put an <iframe> element inside a <noscript> element as a fall back for displaying dynamic content. It validated fine with the HTML 5 doctype, but for HTML 4.01, I get the following error:

Line 9, Column 35: element "IFRAME" undefined
<iframe name="test" src="test.htm"></iframe>

You have used the element named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not define an element of that name. This error is often caused by:

  • incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get the "" element),
  • by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "" or "" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
  • by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and elements must be all lower-case).

This is what I whittled the HTML down to:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" 
          "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
   <title>I AM YOUR DOCUMENT TITLE REPLACE ME</title>
   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
   <div>
     <iframe name="test" src="test.htm"></iframe>
   </div>
</body>
</html>

The <iframe> element is defined in the HTML 4.01 specification at the following URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/frames.html#h-16.5.

It passes with a transitional doctype, so I guess my question is "Why is it disallowed in a strict doctype, even though it's defined in the specification?".

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jujurawrs Avatar asked Feb 26 '23 05:02

jujurawrs


1 Answers

"Why is it disallowed in a strict doctype, even though it's defined in the specification?

Lots of things are defined in the specification but not allowed in Strict. <font> springs to mind. These are the things that the developers of the specification considered in need of documenting, were in use in browsers in the day, but which should be transitioned away from.

I can think of two reasons why they might have thought that:

  • "Why do iframes suck?".
  • <iframe> does (in theory) little that can't be achieved with <object>
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Quentin Avatar answered Mar 07 '23 19:03

Quentin