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using XMPP or WebSocket, why there is a server needed in real-time communication between users?

At the bottom, it's all about socket communications. If there is some way to get the ip of the both users, why can't the connection be directly setup between the users instead of having to go thru a server in the middle?

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tom Avatar asked Nov 28 '22 09:11

tom


2 Answers

My 2 cents:

No one out there forces us to have a server based real-time communication model. Infact XMPP have an extension called "Serverless Messaging" which defines how to communicate over local or wide-area networks using the principles of zero-configuration networking for endpoint discovery and the syntax of XML streams and XMPP messaging for real-time communication. This method uses DNS-based Service Discovery and Multicast DNS to discover entities that support the protocol, including their IP addresses and preferred ports.

P2P chat applications have been for over a decade now. Having a server in the middle is purely a decision dependent upon your application needs. If your application can live with chats getting lost while the user was transitioning between online/offline status, then you can very well have a direct P2P model going. Similarly, there are a loads and loads of advantages (contact list management, avatars, entity discovery, presence authorization, offline messages, ....) when it comes to choosing a server based messaging model. If you try to have all this right inside your P2P based clients, they might die or under-perform because of all the work they will need to perform by themselves.

"WebSockets" were not designed for P2P/Serverless communication, rather they were designed to provide a standardized PUSH semantic over stateless HTTP protocol. In short, "WebSockets" is a standardized way replacing hacky comet, long-polling, chunked-encoding, jsonp, iframe-based and various other technique developers have been using to simulate server push over HTTP.

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Abhinav Singh Avatar answered Dec 04 '22 07:12

Abhinav Singh


Named WebSockets (if someday it is fully and widely supported) could be the solution.

http://namedwebsockets.github.io/spec/

Named WebSockets are useful in a variety of collaborative local device and local network scenarios: Discover matching peer services on the local device and/or the local network.

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Angel Martin Avatar answered Dec 04 '22 06:12

Angel Martin