I often see questions relating to Overflow
errors with vba.
My question is why use the integer
variable declaration instead of just defining all numerical variables (excluding double
etc.) as long
?
Unless you're performing an operation like in a for loop where you can guarantee that the value won't exceed the 32,767 limit, is there an impact on performance or something else that would dictate not using long
?
Large IntegersIf you need to hold an integer larger than the Integer data type can hold, you can use the Long data type instead. Long variables can hold numbers from -9,223,372,036,854,775,808 through 9,223,372,036,854,775,807. Operations with Long are slightly slower than with Integer .
Long is the Object form of long , and Integer is the object form of int . The long uses 64 bits. The int uses 32 bits, and so can only hold numbers up to ±2 billion (-231 to +231-1). You should use long and int , except where you need to make use of methods inherited from Object , such as hashcode .
An Integer is 16 bits wide and was a good default numeric type back when 16 bit architecture/word sizes were prevalent. A Long is 32 bits wide and (IMO) should be used wherever possible.
It has a wider range than int to store a whole number. The long data type is used to hold the larger whole number that int cannot hold. It can store the values from -9,223,372,036,854,775,808 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 .
Integer variables are stored as 16-bit (2-byte) numbers
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Long (long integer) variables are stored as signed 32-bit (4-byte) numbers
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So, the benefit is in reduced memory space. An Integer takes up half the memory that a Long does. Now, we are talking about 2 bytes, so it's not going to make a real difference for individual integers, it's only a concern when you are dealing with TONS of integers (e.g large arrays) and memory usage is critical.
BUT on a 32 bit system, the halved memory usage comes at a performance cost. When the processor actually performs some computation with a 16 bit integer (e.g. incrementing a loop counter), the value silently gets converted to a temporary Long without the benefit of the larger range of numbers to work with. Overflows still happen, and the register that the processor uses to store the values for the calculation will take the same amount of memory (32 bits) either way. Performance may even be hurt because the datatype has to be converted (at a very low level).
Not the reference I was looking for but....
My understanding is that the underlying VB engine converts integers to long even if its declared as an integer. Therefore a slight speed decrease can be noted. I have believed this for some time and perhaps thats also why the above statement was made, I didnt ask for reasoning.
ozgrid forums
This is the reference I was looking for.
Short answer, in 32-bit systems 2 byte integers are converted to 4 byte Longs. There really is no other way so that respective bits correctly line up for any form of processing. Consider the following
MsgBox Hex(-1) = Hex(65535) ' = True
Obviously -1 does not equal 65535 yet the computer is returning the correct answer, namely "FFFF" = "FFFF"
However had we coerced the -1 to a long first we would have got the right answer (the 65535 being greater than 32k is automatically a long)
MsgBox Hex(-1&) = Hex(65535) ' = False
"FFFFFFFF" = "FFFF"
Generally there is no point in VBA to declare "As Integer" in modern systems, except perhaps for some legacy API's that expect to receive an Integer.
pcreview forum
And at long last I found the msdn documentation I was really truly looking for.
Traditionally, VBA programmers have used integers to hold small numbers, because they required less memory. In recent versions, however, VBA converts all integer values to type Long, even if they're declared as type Integer. So there's no longer a performance advantage to using Integer variables; in fact, Long variables may be slightly faster because VBA does not have to convert them.
To clarify based on the comments: Integers still require less memory to store - a large array of integers will need significantly less RAM than an Long array with the same dimensions. But because the processor needs to work with 32 bit chunks of memory, VBA converts Integers to Longs temporarily when it performs calculations
So, in summary, there's almost no good reason to use an Integer
type these days. Unless you need to Interop with an old API call that expects a 16 bit int, or you are working with large arrays of small integers and memory is at a premium.
One thing worth pointing out is that some old API functions may be expecting parameters that are 16-bit (2-byte) Integers and if you are on a 32 bit and trying to pass an Integer (that is already a 4-byte long) by reference it will not work due to difference in length of bytes.
Thanks to Vba4All for pointing that out.
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