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Why does a filter gradient on a pseudo element not work in IE8?

I want to create buttons like these:
pseudo 3d button

In modern browsers the effect is created using inset box-shadow and filters.
For IE8 - pseudo-elements are chosen.
For IE7 - I use special tags wrapped in conditional comments.

Demo: (http://jsfiddle.net/8M5Tt/68/)

/**
 * Button w/o images
 */
html {
    font-size: 62.5%;
    }
body {
    font: normal 1em/1em Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif;
    }
 
/* layout */
.btn {
    display: inline-block;
    height: 28px;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-style: solid;
    width: 170px;
    box-sizing: content-box;
    overflow: hidden;
    position: relative;
    z-index: 1;
    }
.btn {
    margin: 15px;
    }
.btn.btn_small {
    width: 130px;
    }

/* ie7 */
.lt-ie8 .btn .before,
.lt-ie8 .btn .after {
    position: absolute;
    right: -1px;
    left: -1px;
    display: block;
    height: 3px;
    }
.lt-ie8 .btn .before {
    top: -1px;
    filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#80ffffff', endColorstr='#00ffffff',GradientType=0 );
    }
.lt-ie8 .btn .after {
    bottom: -1px;
    filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#00ffffff', endColorstr='#80000000',GradientType=0 );
    }
/* /ie7 */

/* ie8 */
.ie8 .btn:before,
.ie8 .btn:after {
    content: ' ';
    z-index: 1;    
    position: absolute;
    right: -1px;
    left: -1px;
    display: block;
    height: 3px;
    }
.ie8 .btn:before {
    top: -1px;
    filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#80ffffff', endColorstr='#00ffffff',GradientType=0 );
    }
.ie8 .btn:after {
    bottom: -1px;
    filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#00ffffff', endColorstr='#80000000',GradientType=0 );
    }
/* /ie8 */

/* typo */
.btn {
    /* 28 / 14 = 2.57142857 */
    font: bold 14px/2 Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif;
    text-transform: uppercase;
    }
.btn:active {
    line-height: 2.4em;
    }

/* color */
.btn {
    background-color: #00cccc;
    color: #fff;
    border-color: #00a8a8;
    border-radius: 3px;
    cursor: pointer;
    box-shadow:
         1px  1px 4px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5) inset,            
        -1px -1px 4px rgba(000, 000, 000, 0.5) inset;
    }
.btn:hover {
    background-color: #00ebeb;
    }
.btn:active {
    box-shadow:
        -1px -1px 4px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5) inset,            
         1px  1px 4px rgba(000, 000, 000, 0.5) inset;
    }

/* green */
.btn_green {
    background-color: #009900;
    border-color: #009600;
    }
.btn_green:hover {
    background-color: #00c200;
    }

/* red */
.btn_red {
    background-color: #e00000;
    border-color: #c13d00;
    }
.btn_red:hover {
    background-color: #f00000;
    }
<!--
paulirish.com/2008/conditional-stylesheets-vs-css-hacks-answer-neither/
-->
<!--[if lt IE 7]> 
    <div class="no-js lt-ie9 lt-ie8 lt-ie7" lang="en">
<![endif]-->
<!--[if IE 7]>
    <div class="no-js lt-ie9 lt-ie8 ie7" lang="en">
<![endif]-->
<!--[if IE 8]>
    <div class="no-js lt-ie9 ie8" lang="en">
<![endif]-->
<!--[if gt IE 8]><!-->
    <div class="no-js no-ie" lang="en">
<!--<![endif]-->

<button class="btn btn_green btn_small ">
    Send
    <!--[if IE 7]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

<button class="btn">
    Buy
    <!--[if IE 7]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

<button class="btn btn_green">
    Activate
    <!--[if IE 7]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

<button class="btn btn_red">
    Delete
    <!--[if IE 7]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

</div>

Main Question: Why don't filters work on pseudo elements in IE8?


Update:

I guess that filters do not work on css-generated content, despite the fact that it is not mentioned on this MSDN page.

I solved my problem in IE8 by applying filters to conditional elements like I do for IE7.

Final demo: (http://jsfiddle.net/matmuchrapna/8M5Tt/73/)

/**
 * Button w/o images
 */
html {
    font-size: 62.5%;
    }
body {
    font: normal 1em/1em Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif;
    }
 
/* layout */
.btn {
    display: inline-block;
    height: 28px;
    border-width: 1px;
    border-style: solid;
    width: 170px;
    box-sizing: content-box;
    overflow: hidden;
    position: relative;
    z-index: 1;
    }
.btn {
    margin: 15px;
    }
.btn.btn_small {
    width: 130px;
    }

/* ie78 */
.lt-ie9 .btn .before,
.lt-ie9 .btn .after {
    position: absolute;
    right: -1px;
    left: -1px;
    display: block;
    height: 3px;
    }
.lt-ie9 .btn .before {
    top: -1px;
    filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#80ffffff', endColorstr='#00ffffff',GradientType=0 );
    }
.lt-ie9 .btn .after {
    bottom: -1px;
    filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#00ffffff', endColorstr='#80000000',GradientType=0 );
    }
/* /ie78 */

/* typo */
.btn {
    /* 28 / 14 = 2.57142857 */
    font: bold 14px/2 Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif;
    text-transform: uppercase;
    }
.btn:active {
    line-height: 2.4em;
    }

/* color */
.btn {
    background-color: #00cccc;
    color: #fff;
    border-color: #00a8a8;
    border-radius: 3px;
    cursor: pointer;
    box-shadow:
         1px  1px 4px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5) inset,            
        -1px -1px 4px rgba(000, 000, 000, 0.5) inset;
    }
.btn:hover {
    background-color: #00ebeb;
    }
.btn:active {
    box-shadow:
        -1px -1px 4px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5) inset,            
         1px  1px 4px rgba(000, 000, 000, 0.5) inset;
    }

/* green */
.btn_green {
    background-color: #009900;
    border-color: #009600;
    }
.btn_green:hover {
    background-color: #00c200;
    }

/* red */
.btn_red {
    background-color: #e00000;
    border-color: #c13d00;
    }
.btn_red:hover {
    background-color: #f00000;
    }
<!--
paulirish.com/2008/conditional-stylesheets-vs-css-hacks-answer-neither/
-->
<!--[if lt IE 7]> 
    <div class="no-js lt-ie9 lt-ie8 lt-ie7" lang="en">
<![endif]-->
<!--[if IE 7]>
    <div class="no-js lt-ie9 lt-ie8 ie7" lang="en">
<![endif]-->
<!--[if IE 8]>
    <div class="no-js lt-ie9 ie8" lang="en">
<![endif]-->
<!--[if gt IE 8]><!-->
    <div class="no-js no-ie" lang="en">
<!--<![endif]-->

<button class="btn btn_green btn_small ">
    Send
    <!--[if lte IE 8]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

<button class="btn">
    Buy
    <!--[if lte IE 8]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

<button class="btn btn_green">
    Activate
    <!--[if lte IE 8]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

<button class="btn btn_red">
    Delete
    <!--[if lte IE 8]> <span class="before"> </span><span class="after"> </span> <![endif]-->
</button>

</div>

Update 2:

I solved my problem, but the main question is still unanswered:

“Why don't filters work on pseudo elements in IE8?”

Started a bounty.

Update 3: I created testcase only for filters(and also -ms-filter) on ie8:

enter image description here

But the filters still don't want to work on pseudo-elements.

Update 4: I think Scotts answer is closest to truth.

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Vladimir Starkov Avatar asked May 01 '12 20:05

Vladimir Starkov


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2 Answers

The question is "Why don't filters work on pseudo elements in IE8?" The following is as close to a definitive answer as I can muster. It comes from the information on this page.

The gradient filter is a "procedural surface" (along with alphaimageloader). A procedural surface is defined so:

Procedural surfaces are colored surfaces that display between the content of an object and the object's background.

Read that carefully. It is essentially another "layer" you might say between the content of an object and that object's background. Do you see the answer to the question? What is created by :before and :after... Yes! Content. Specifically as MSDN notes:

The ::before and ::after pseudo-elements specify the location of content before and after an element in the document tree. The content attribute, in conjunction with these pseudo-elements, specifies what is inserted.

The generated content interacts with other boxes as if they were real elements inserted just inside their associated element.

Now, if it is content that is generated, then it is not an "object" containing content, but the content itself (which happens to have some behavior similar to an element object that might contain content).

Thus, there is no "object" containing "content" (since it is content) between which the filter can place a procedural surface for content generated by a pseudo-element (i.e. "false element"). A gradient must be applied to the object, and then the procedural surface is placed between it and the content.

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ScottS Avatar answered Oct 22 '22 03:10

ScottS


The documentation on -ms-filter -a synonym for filter- states:

An object must have layout for the filter to render.

My first guess was that the :before content doesn't have hasLayout set to true. And while it's probably not set to true, it's probably not set to false either. For starters, when I followed the hasLayout docs to force the content to get hasLayout = true (see jsfiddle) it didn't solve anything.

So I'd say it's neither true nor false. Instead, it's probably undefined. I noted in the same docs it says about the source of this property:

object.currentStyle.hasLayout

If we have a look at the W3 documentation on the content property it says:

Generated content does not alter the document tree. In particular, it is not fed back to the document language processor (e.g., for reparsing).

So, a possible conclusion would be that the generated content is not an object, as such it does not have a currentStyle property, and thus also doesn't have hasLayout set to true. This would be the reason that filters don't work on the generated content, and thus answer the question.


At first sight I thought I had found a hint in the console of the above fiddle:

document.querySelectorAll('div')[0].currentStyle.hasLayout; 
// true

document.querySelectorAll('div:before')[0].currentStyle.hasLayout
// Unable to get value of the property 'currentStyle': 
// object is null or undefined

But as mentioned in the comments by @BoltClock: querySelectorAll cannot access pseudo-elements.


Another hint (though -again- nothing more than a hint) that filter won't work on pseudo-elements can be found in this msdn introduction on filters, stating (emphasis mine):

Filters are applied to HTML controls through the filter property

Although I'm not sure what is meant by "HTML controls", I wouldn't expect content generated by the :before pseudo-element to be considered a "HTML Control".

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Jeroen Avatar answered Oct 22 '22 03:10

Jeroen