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Virtual Library Interfaces for Delphi/Win32?

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I read this article and find the concept of Virtual Library Interfaces nice for runtime loading of DLLs. However it seems that they aren't available for Win32. Is this true? And if so: Why? I don't see what would tie the idea to .NET.

EDIT: I'm mostly rephrasing here what Rob already wrote. :-)
I'm not after plugins or similar - it's about plain old Win32 DLLs. What appeals to me is the idea to let the compiler deal with all the details of loading a DLL at runtime - no need to call GetProcAddress for every function in the DLL etc.

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Uli Gerhardt Avatar asked Mar 19 '09 16:03

Uli Gerhardt


3 Answers

It seems to me like the three answers so far have completely missed the point of your question. That, or I have. You're asking why Win32 Delphi doesn't have something like the magical Supports function that Hallvard's article talks about, aren't you? Namely, a function that, given the name of a DLL and the type information of an interface, returns an object that implements that interface using the standalone functions exported from the DLL.

Hydra seems to be all about calling .Net code from a Win32 program, not about importing functions from a DLL. TJvPluginManager requires that the plug-in DLLs export a special self-registration function that the manager will call when it loads the DLL, and the function must return an instance of the TJvPlugin class, so the plug-in DLL must be written in Delphi or C++ Builder. The Supports function, on the other hand, works with any DLL written in any language. You could use it on kernel32, if you wanted.

I don't know why Win32 Delphi doesn't have such a thing. Maybe CodeGear didn't see much demand for it since Delphi and Turbo Pascal had already gone for so long without it.

It's certainly possible to write a function that works like that, and I don't expect it would be any harder to write than the .Net version must have been, unless Microsoft's .Net libraries already provide most of the pieces and Delphi just wraps them up into a convenient-to-call function that looks like the several other overloaded versions of Supports that Delphi has had for years.

There would be a few steps to implementing that function in Win32. (I'm providing only a sketch of what's necessary because I don't have a running copy of Delphi handy right now. Ask nicely, and maybe I'll find more details.) First, you'd need to make sure that type information for an interface held, at a minimum, the undecorated names of its methods. Then, Supports would need to generate a function stub for each method in the interface (besides _AddRef, _Release, and QueryInterface). The stub would go something like this, assuming the calling convention is stdcall:

asm
  // Pop the return address,
  // discard the "this" pointer,
  // and restore the return address
  pop eax
  pop ecx
  push eax

  jmp AddressOfFunction
end;

As Supports generated each stub, it would fill in the actual function address, gotten from calling GetProcAddress with the name of the corresponding interface method. The stdcall calling convention is easy to wrap like that; cdecl is a little cumbersome; register is a pain in the neck.

Once it has all the stubs generated, it would need to generate an "object" that looks like it implements the given interface. It doesn't have to be an actual class. At compile time, Supports doesn't know the layout of the interface it's going to be asked to implement, so having a class wouldn't accomplish much.

The final step is to provide implementations of the _AddRef, _Release, and QueryInterface. _AddRef would be unremarkable; _Release is where you'd call FreeLibrary when the reference count reached zero; QueryInterface wouldn't do much at all, except claim that it supports IUnknown and the interface given to Supports.

Delphi used to come with a sample program that demonstrated implementing an interface without any classes at all. It was all done with records and function pointers (which is all an interface ultimately is, after all). Delphi also came with the corresponding code to do it with classes, in part to show how much easier Delphi can make things. I can't find the name of the demo program now, but I'm sure it's still around somewhere.

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Rob Kennedy Avatar answered Oct 25 '22 16:10

Rob Kennedy


There are a number of Win32 options for this type of functionality. Project JEDI has an open source plugin system as part of the JVCL that loads either DLLs or packages, and can include forms and whatnot as additional functionality.

There are also a number of commercial products available, including the TMS Plugin Framework and RemObjects Hydra.

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Tim Sullivan Avatar answered Oct 25 '22 14:10

Tim Sullivan


This is nothing new or special. The article's just talking about plugins. Native code's been able to do plugins for years. The only special thing about P/Invoke is that it allows native code and .NET to talk to each other in a plugin system, and the little trick where "the DLL can be seen as a singleton object that implements the interface [so that] you can use the Supports function from the Borland.Delphi.Win32 unit to check if the DLL and all the methods are available."

If you want to do what the article's talking about in Delphi for Win32, look at the LoadLibrary, GetProcAddress and FreeLibrary Windows API functions. If you absolutely must have an interface like the article describes, you have to write it yourself, either in the DLL (if you wrote the DLL yourself) by writing an exported function that returns an interface, or in the calling app, by writing a function that uses GetProcAddress to create an interface dynamically. (Caution: this requires mucking around with pointers, and is usually more trouble than it's worth.)

Your best bet is probably just to do what Tim Sullivan mentioned: use TJvPluginManager from the JEDI VCL if you only need native code, or Hydra if you have to talk to .NET assemblies.

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Mason Wheeler Avatar answered Oct 25 '22 16:10

Mason Wheeler