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Scrum and Fogbugz [closed]

Anyone out there using Fogbugz and Scrum together?

We use Fogbugz extensively, and I'm looking for ideas from anyone who may be using it as part of Scrum. I found these two items, but they are archived and unvailable for further discussion. I'm specifically interested in ideas for mapping Scrum concepts into Fogbugz.

Some things are fairly obvious. Releases and sprints map well to each other. But other parts of Scrum don't really fit.

http://support.fogcreek.com/default.asp?fogbugz.4.12143.4
http://support.fogcreek.com/default.asp?fogbugz.4.19971.3

I'm also thinking it might not be too hard to create some lightweight custom stuff to wrap around Fogbugz so that we don't have to abandon one of our favorite tools in order to improve our software process integration.

Edit:

I'm adding a few more specific questions that have come up. Any suggestions on these items would be helpful:

  • How do we prioritize a large backlog with only the 7 priority levels provided by Fogbugz? We can modify the database tables to add more levels, but is that an appropriate in the current/intended Fogbugz model?
  • How/where do we document a sprint goal?
  • How do we document a canceled sprint?
  • How do we document sprint review?
  • How do we track completed or canceled sprints?

Edit #2:

Chris's reply below reminded me that we have indeed upgraded to Fogbugz v7. It has many great features that align it more closely with Agile, Scrum, and Lean including:

  • Project Backlog (via plugin)
  • Custom Workflow
  • Burn Down Charts
  • Kanban Board (via plugin)

See the following links for more info:
http://www.fogcreek.com/FogBugz/WhatsNew.html
http://www.fogcreek.com/FogBugz/Plugins/default.aspx?ixCategory=-3

Edit #3 Adding link that Perhentian mentioned in his answer as well as another I found:

http://www.danielroot.info/2009/08/how-to-apply-scrum-using-fogbugz-7.html
http://www.fogcreek.com/FogBugz/blog/post/Scrum-Friendly-Features.aspx

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Keith G Avatar asked Nov 24 '08 21:11

Keith G


3 Answers

FogBugz now (as of version 7) supports plugins, which should make it much easier to use with Scrum.

Tools for Agile / Scrum

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Chris Zwiryk Avatar answered Nov 18 '22 02:11

Chris Zwiryk


We had been using FB for a long time, but recently started formalizing our use of Scrum.

Found the following things PRETTY helpful:

  1. Used a tag for each Scrum sprint.
  2. The sprint tag is entered into each FB case in that sprint.
  3. We have a Wiki called "Scrum Sprint Reports"
  4. Within that Wiki, we add an article for each new sprint (we have them by weeks). That article has the same tag as that of the sprint.

Then, the following things help:

Firstly, if you simply search by the tag, you will find: all cases and the specific Wiki article (which even in headline view will show you the goals)

Secondly, we create two filters: one filter for showing the cases of that scrum in a list view, and second filter for showing cases open/closed in a pie chart. As you go through the week, you hope to have eaten more of the pie.

The only thing that I don't like about this is that I have to modify my two filters every Friday, but at least TGIF.


PS: Just feel like mentioning that FB Wiki Editor is better than one in 7.0, but really should be versioned 0.8. It is at least 2 editions away from being something stable.

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Amrinder Arora Avatar answered Nov 18 '22 01:11

Amrinder Arora


After using FOGBUGZ and JIRA for agile, i have decided that neither tool is really ideal to support the model. Can you get either to work. Yes. JIRA is actually a little better because of the ability to customize more (Create user stories, etc) But if you really want your team in SCRUM mode, you need to have everyone looking at a burndown chart and everyone looking at a backlog and i think you should look at tools like SCRUMWORKS. The basic version is free and it will give you what you want. Use JIRA and Fogbugz for what they were meant to do, keep track of bugs and requests but not be a full SCRUM management tool.'

Update: You can use Greenhopper plugin to JIRA which is a little better to support agile projects.

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leora Avatar answered Nov 18 '22 01:11

leora