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Handling sessions without ACID database?

I am thinking about using a noSQL (mongoDB) paired with memcached to store sessions with in my webapp. The idea is that upon each page load, the user data is compared to the data in the memcache and if something has changed, the data would be written to both memcached and mySQL. This way the reads would be greatly reduced and memcached utilized to do what it does best.

However I am a bit concerned about using a non-ACID database for session storage especially with the memcached layer. Let's say something goes wrong while updating the session to the DB and our users got instant headache wondering why their product that they put in the cart doesn't show up...

What's an appropriate approach to this? Should we go for a mySQL session storage or is it fine to keep a non-acid supportive database for sessions?

Thanks!

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Industrial Avatar asked Sep 10 '10 14:09

Industrial


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2 Answers

I'm using MongoDB as session storage currently. It is possible to avoid race conditions mentioned by pilif. I found a class that implements a session handler for MongoDB (http://www.jqueryin.com/projects/mongo-session/) and forked it on github to suit my needs (http://github.com/halfdan/MongoSession).

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halfdan Avatar answered Sep 16 '22 18:09

halfdan


If you don't want to lose your data, stick with ACID tested databases.

What's the payoff you're looking for?

If you want a secure system, you can't trust anything from the user, save for perhaps selected integers, so letting them store the information is typically a really bad idea.

I don't see the payoff for storing sessions outside of your MySQL database. You can cron cleanup on the tables if that's your concern, but why bother? Some users will shop on a site and then get distracted for a while. They would then come back a day or two later.

If you use cookies or something really temporary to store their session info, there is a really good chance their shopping time was wasted. Users really value their time... so if you stored their session info in the database, you can write something sexy to manage that data.

Plus, the nice side effect of this is that you'll generate a lot of residual information about what people like on your website that wouldn't perhaps be available to you later on. Like you could even consider some of it to be like a poll or something where the items people are adding to their cart could impact how you manage your business, order inventory or focus your marketing.

If you go with something really temporary then you lose out on getting residual benefits.

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Geekster Avatar answered Sep 20 '22 18:09

Geekster