The Eclipse downloads page provides a selection of purpose oriented downloads.
I'm looking for the minimal download; I'll handpick the plugins I want. Would I find this kind of 'core' download, or do I simply not grok eclipse yet.
I like to have a look at the "Compare Eclipse packages" page first
That will explain the size difference between the "C/C++" package and the "Classic" Package.
The latter is suited for RCP (Rich Client Platform) development and include the sources of Eclipse.
If you want to do some classic Java development (and not some Eclipse plugin for Eclipse itself), you can start with the Java edition, and add plugins (like PDT for Php development) later.
Notice the orange ticks, which reference packages with sources included.
I think Eclipse Classic is what you're going for. It's suited for basic Java development, but has a minimum of additional stuff. I always start with that and then customize with the plugins I want.
Out of curiosity, what type of development are you doing?
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