I work as an admin in a charitable organisation that is IT illiterate and has an outsourced IT department!! To a lay person I might appear to be a an IT Guru. However, to the initiated I am no more than a script monkey(if in fact I am that high up the evolutionary chain. 'Script Amoebae' might be nearer the mark!) I have managed to upscale a very clumsy MSaccess DB onto SQL server and developed some apps that have made the organisation much more efficient, I have used SSRS to deliver information, got my head round the basics of TSQL and sort of become the DBA by default. I am often guilty of implementing the first thing that works that i find by google!! But i am trying to get my head around the bigger picture(honest!). I have recently stumbled upon asp and c#. I have no formal IT training but I was member of my HighSchool computer club in 1985!!!!