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Sticky Sessions and Session Replication

I am evaluating the case of using sticky sessions with Session replication in tomcat. From my initial evaluation, I thought that if we enable Session replication, then session started in one tomcat node will be copied to all other tomcat nodes and thus we do not need sticky session to continue sessions and the request can be picked up by any node.

But it seems that session replication is in general used with sticky sessions, otherwise the session id needs to be changed whenever the request goes to some other node. ref: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/cluster-howto.html#Bind_session_after_crash_to_failover_node

Can anyone explain what is the real use of session replication if you have to enable sticky session? Because then you would be unnecessarily copying the session on each node, when the request with a given session id is always going to the same node. It could be beneficial in case of a node crashing, but then that does not happen frequently and using session replication only for that seems like an overkill.

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Ashish Avatar asked Jun 16 '11 06:06

Ashish


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2 Answers

As Mindas explained it before :

When you use loadbalancing it means you have several instances of tomcat and you need to divide loads.

  • If you're using session replication without sticky session : Imagine you have only one user using your web app, and you have 3 tomcat instances. This user sends several requests to your app, then the loadbalancer will send some of these requests to the first tomcat instance, and send some other of these requests to the secondth instance, and other to the third.
  • If you're using sticky session without replication : Imagine you have only one user using your web app, and you have 3 tomcat instances. This user sends several requests to your app, then the loadbalancer will send the first user request to one of the three tomcat instances, and all the other requests that are sent by this user during his session will be sent to the same tomcat instance. During these requests, if you shutdown or restart this tomcat instance (tomcat instance which is used) the loadbalancer sends the remaining requests to one other tomcat instance that is still running, BUT as you don't use session replication, the instance tomcat which receives the remaining requests doesn't have a copy of the user session then for this tomcat the user begin a session : the user loose his session and is disconnected from the web app although the web app is still running.
  • If you're using sticky session WITH session replication : Imagine you have only one user using your web app, and you have 3 tomcat instances. This user sends several requests to your app, then the loadbalancer will send the first user request to one of the three tomcat instances, and all the other requests that are sent by this user during his session will be sent to the same tomcat instance. During these requests, if you shutdown or restart this tomcat instance (tomcat instance which is used) the loadbalancer sends the remaining requests to one other tomcat instance that is still running, as you use session replication, the instance tomcat which receives the remaining requests has a copy of the user session then the user keeps on his session : the user continue to browse your web app without being disconnected, the shutdown of the tomcat instance doesn't impact the user navigation.
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Nico Avatar answered Sep 26 '22 06:09

Nico


I think the only real benefit is to be able to shut down Tomcat instances without much thinking. Especially this applies today in cloud world (think Amazon AWS spot instances) when nodes can go on and off really often. Alternative to this would be to buy a decent load balancer which supports node draining. But decent load balancers are expensive, and draining takes time.

Another scenario I can think of is a (poor implementation of) shopping cart where items are kept in the HttpSession and shutting down would require the user to re-purchase them (which would likely lead to a lost sale).

But in most cases you're right - benefit of having both sticky sessions and session replication is very negligible.

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mindas Avatar answered Sep 23 '22 06:09

mindas