In general, best practice when dealing with dates is to store them in UTC and convert back to whatever the user expects within the application layer.
That doesn't necessarily work with future dates, particularly where the date/time is specific to the user in their timezone. A schedule based on local time requires storing a local time.
In my instance,there’s one attribute that’s a timestamp containing the start_time of a future event, compared to everything else that's now or in the past (including the created_at
and updated_at
timestamps).
This particular field is the timestamp of a future event where the user selects the time.
For future events, it seems best practice is not to store UTC.
Instead of saving the time in UTC along with the time zone, developers can save what the user expects us to save: the wall time.
When the user chooses 10am, it needs to stay 10am even when the user’s offset from UTC changes between creation and the event date due to daylight savings.
So, in June 2016, if a user creates an event for 1st Jan 2017 at midnight in Sydney, that timestamp will be stored in the database as 2017-01-01 00:00
. The offset at time of creation would be +10:00, but at the time of the event, it’d be +11:00.. unless government decides to change that in the meantime.
Like wise, I’d expect a separate event that I create for 1 Jan 2016 at midnight in Brisbane to also be stored as 2017-01-01 00:00
. I store the timezone i.e. Australia/Brisbane
in a separate field.
I’ve tried lots of options with no success:
Problem, this only skips conversion on read, not writing.
self.skip_time_zone_conversion_for_attributes = [:start_time]
config.default_timestamp :local
To do this, I set:
config/application.rb
config.active_record.default_timezone = :local
config.time_zone = 'UTC'
app/model/event.rb
...
self.skip_time_zone_conversion_for_attributes = [:start_time]
before_save :set_timezone_to_location
after_save :set_timezone_to_default
def set_timezone_to_location
Time.zone = location.timezone
end
def set_timezone_to_default
Time.zone = 'UTC'
end
...
To be frank, I’m not sure what this is doing.. but not what I want.
I thought it was working as my Brisbane event was stored as 2017-01-01 00:00
but when I created a new event for Sydney, it was stored as 2017-01-01 01:00
even though it displays as midnight correctly in the view.
That being the case, I’m concerned that still have the same problem with the Sydney event that I’m trying to avoid.
I’ve tried to also store the event start_time as an integer in the database.
I tried doing this by monkey patching the Time class and adding a before_validates
callback to do the conversion.
config/initializers/time.rb
class Time
def time_to_i
self.strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M').to_i
end
end
app/model/event.rb
before_validation :change_start_time_to_integer
def change_start_time_to_integer
start_time = start_time.to_time if start_time.is_a? String
start_time = start_time.time_to_i
end
# read value from DB
# TODO: this freaks out with an error currently
def start_time
#take integer YYYYMMDDHHMM and convert it to timestamp
st = self[:start_time]
Time.new(
st / 100000000,
st / 1000000 % 100,
st / 10000 % 100,
st / 100 % 100,
st % 100,
0,
offset(true)
)
end
I’d like to be able to store a timestamp in its natural datatype in the database so queries don’t get messy in my controllers, but I can’t figure out how to store “wall time” that doesn’t convert.
Second best, I’d settle for the integer option if I have to.
How do others deal with this? What am I missing? Particularly with the "integer conversion" option above, I'm making things far more complicated than they need to be.
When storing dates in the database, they should always be in UTC. If you are not familiar with what UTC is, it is a primary time standard that all the major timezones are based on. The major timezones are just offsets from UTC.
Internally, the timestamp is as an integer, representing seconds in UTC since the epoch ( 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC ) and TIMESTAMPTZ values also stored as integers with respect to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC).
So, store times in UTC and store the timezone as a separate entry and compute this when needed which is less error prone. Local time is usually an implementation detail.
Approach 2: However, if it is stored as Local time as below for example for event ABC it will be always 17:00 on any date as there is no conversion to from UTC to local time. And an application layer converts local time to UTC time to send to other systems through (API GetEndTimeByEvent).
Bookmark this question. Show activity on this post. Generally, it is the best practice to store time in UTC and as mentioned in here and here. Suppose there is a re-occurring event let's say end time which is always at the same local time let's say 17:00 regardless of whether there is Daylight saving is on or off for that time zone.
You’ll be wrong most of the time. Your code, at its best. Be the best developer on the team. When facing the problems caused by incorrect handling of date and time issues, many developers will say that the only correct solution is to use UTC for everything. However, as you’ve learned by reading this post, UTC isn’t always the answer.
Instead of using the Now property on DateTime, use UtcNow to retrieve the date time already in UTC to perform the calculations: DateTime start = DateTime.UtcNow; // things happen DateTime end = DateTime.UtcNow; ImeSpan duration = end - start; What if the DateTime objects you already have are set to Local?
I propose that you still use the first option but with a little hack: in essence, you can switch off the time zone conversion for the desired attribute and use a custom setter to overcome the conversion during attribute writes.
The trick saves the time as a fake UTC time. Although technically it has an UTC zone (as all the times are saved in db in UTC) but by definition it shall be interpreted as local time, regardless of the current time zone.
class Model < ActiveRecord::Base
self.skip_time_zone_conversion_for_attributes = [:start_time]
def start_time=(time)
write_attribute(:start_time, time ? time + time.utc_offset : nil)
end
end
Let's test this in rails console:
$ rails c
>> future_time = Time.local(2020,03,30,11,55,00)
=> 2020-03-30 11:55:00 +0200
>> Model.create(start_time: future_time)
D, [2016-03-15T00:01:09.112887 #28379] DEBUG -- : (0.1ms) BEGIN
D, [2016-03-15T00:01:09.114785 #28379] DEBUG -- : SQL (1.4ms) INSERT INTO `models` (`start_time`) VALUES ('2020-03-30 11:55:00')
D, [2016-03-15T00:01:09.117749 #28379] DEBUG -- : (2.7ms) COMMIT
=> #<Model id: 6, start_time: "2020-03-30 13:55:00">
Note that Rails saved the time as a 11:55, in a "fake" UTC zone.
Also note that the time in the object returned from create
is wrong because the zone is converted from the "UTC" in this case. You would have to count with that and reload the object every time after setting the start_time
attribute, so that the zone conversion skipping can take place:
>> m = Model.create(start_time: future_time).reload
D, [2016-03-15T00:08:54.129926 #28589] DEBUG -- : (0.2ms) BEGIN
D, [2016-03-15T00:08:54.131189 #28589] DEBUG -- : SQL (0.7ms) INSERT INTO `models` (`start_time`) VALUES ('2020-03-30 11:55:00')
D, [2016-03-15T00:08:54.134002 #28589] DEBUG -- : (2.5ms) COMMIT
D, [2016-03-15T00:08:54.141720 #28589] DEBUG -- : Model Load (0.3ms) SELECT `models`.* FROM `models` WHERE `models`.`id` = 10 LIMIT 1
=> #<Model id: 10, start_time: "2020-03-30 11:55:00">
>> m.start_time
=> 2020-03-30 11:55:00 UTC
After loading the object, the start_time
attribute is correct and can be manually interpreted as local time regardless of the actual time zone.
I really don't get it why Rails behaves the way it does regarding the skip_time_zone_conversion_for_attributes
configuration option...
Update: adding a reader
We can also add a reader so that we automatically interpret the saved "fake" UTC time in local time, without shifting the time due to timezone change:
class Model < ActiveRecord::Base
# interprets time stored in UTC as local time without shifting time
# due to time zone change
def start_time
t = read_attribute(:start_time)
t ? Time.local(t.year, t.month, t.day, t.hour, t.min, t.sec) : nil
end
end
Test in rails console:
>> m = Model.create(start_time: future_time).reload
D, [2016-03-15T08:10:54.889871 #28589] DEBUG -- : (0.1ms) BEGIN
D, [2016-03-15T08:10:54.890848 #28589] DEBUG -- : SQL (0.4ms) INSERT INTO `models` (`start_time`) VALUES ('2020-03-30 11:55:00')
D, [2016-03-15T08:10:54.894413 #28589] DEBUG -- : (3.1ms) COMMIT
D, [2016-03-15T08:10:54.895531 #28589] DEBUG -- : Model Load (0.3ms) SELECT `models`.* FROM `models` WHERE `models`.`id` = 12 LIMIT 1
=> #<Model id: 12, start_time: "2020-03-30 11:55:00">
>> m.start_time
=> 2020-03-30 11:55:00 +0200
I.e. the start_time
is correctly interpreted in local time, even though it was stored as the same hour and minute, but in UTC.
This may sound a bit out there, but I have dealt with similar issues with a recent application I was tasked with - but on the opposite side - when I run an ETL to load data for the application, dates from the source are stored in EST. Rails believes that it is UTC when serving the data, so for that, I converted the dates back to UTC using P/SQL. I did not want these dates to be different than the other date fields within the app.
Option A In this case, could you capture the user timezone at creation, and send that back as a hidden field in the form? I am still learning RoR, so am not sure on the "proper" way to do this, but right now I would do something like this:
Example (I tested this, and it will submit the offset (minutes) in a hidden field):
<div class="field">
<%= f.hidden_field :offset %>
</div>
<script>
utcDiff = new Date().getTimezoneOffset();
dst_field = document.getElementById('timepage_offset');
dst_field.value = utcDiff;
</script>
If you then send utcDiff along with the user selected date, you could calculate the UTC date before storing. I suppose you could add that to the model as well if that data is necessary to know at a later date.
I think that no matter how this is done, there will always be slight area for confusion, unless the user is capable of providing the proper information, which leads me to...
Option B: You could, instead of a hidden field, provide a select list (and to be friendly, default it to the users' local offset), to allow them to provide the zone for which their date is specified in.
Update - TimeZone select I've done some research, and it looks like there is already a form helper for a time zone select box.
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